During a recent edition of the “Busted Open Radio” podcast, WWE Hall of Famer Bully Ray discussed why John Cena is not poised to surpass Ric Flair’s title record next year.

Cena shares the record with Flair, each having won the world title 16 times. The Cenation Leader requires one more title win to set a new record.

As we previously reported here on eWn, WWE is discussing a 17th World Title win for Cena.

You can check out some highlights from the podcast below:

On how he views John Cena and Ric Flair’s title accolades: “To me, John Cena is a WWE Champion, full stop, that’s it. You can’t beat Ric Flair’s record. Ric Flair was a WWF Champion, he was an NWA Champion, a WCW Champion … Ric Flair has held different championships around the world which to me, holds more water than John Cena’s only WWE Championships … To me, John Cena is already the most decorated World Heavyweight Champion in WWE history, and John Cena has the record within the WWE. I don’t look at it that way, Flair is in a spot all his own.”

On The New Day compared to The Dudley Boyz: “You can say The New Day are the most decorated tag team in the history of the WWE, but The New Day can’t even be mentioned in the same breath as The Dudleys, because The Dudleys did it all over the planet.”